IB Symposium
Cling and Keep

The Smoking Section

"Someone once said: "If you want to save the world, you have to sit in the smoking section." I love that. That means you're going to breathe a lot of second hand smoke, and you may die early. So what? What are we here for anyway?"                                                        .--John Fischer

"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose."                                                                     .--Jim Elliot

Sorry, I don't have much time for blogging lately but I will post a couple of quotes that I like.  What do you think of these two quotes?  Do you see a congruence or a disconnect in their messages?  I would love to hear from you.

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cj

"Someone once said: "If you want to save the world, you have to sit in the smoking section." I love that. That means you're going to breathe a lot of second hand smoke, and you may die early. So what? What are we here for anyway?" Okay so super critic checking in here. First, I don't want to save the world-that is Someone else's job. Now impacting the world with the love of Jesus, that is another issue. I like John's thought of living close to the edge of God's adventure but that is very different for each of us, the question is why are we here-if answered they how to live for that purpose? Pursue-wrestle-enjoy-rest. I'm always amazed at how I want things to happen yesterday; even that is a little late and how God had his saints wait-wait-wait; then move by His will and Spirit not out of compulsion or a need to do something. I vote disconnect.

Ryan

Chris,

Thanks for your comments. I like your thoughts. About the disconnect....sorry that is not an option. God's love is more difficult to get out of than a cell phone contract and disconnection in any manner is not an option. You might as well keep engaging with Him and with others.

Ryan

mike l

what I like about the fisher quote is the intentionality toward relationships with (what appear to be) unbelievers. here is what is missing: there are a lot of "non-smokers" (believers) who miss the point too, and are just as much need of compassion, truth and genuine relationship. i guess sometimes it's just as hard (or harder) to sit in the fundamental christian section as it is to sit the smoking section, but they are deserving of the same intentional love as the "smokers".

the elliot quote is really Matthew 16:25-26 from a different angle. it's something to spend your life wrapping your head around.

both quotes remind us that life is temporary, and we should spend the time we have pursuing God's kingdom on earth.

Ryan

Mike and Chris,
I think you both have hit on something important in your comments--We need to live and move in God's will and by the Holy Spirit and let the Grace that we have been given exude out of our lives to all people in all places--smoking or non...
Good stuff.

cj

ryan-
you misunderstood my disconnect comment-you asked if the two quotes were coherent-I voted disconnected as in from each others thoughts not from engaging with God's purpose or invite.
bty i've been doing a little study about the recent history of SK-crazy stuff-assasinations-coups-total remake of government-control by china, japan, usa and attempts from russia-all in the past 60 years!!! could this country survive that?

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